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facingdeath
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Hello guys, Im going to start a discussion about a complicated subject. BOT!
Few minutes ago, i was banned cause i was playing in a wi-fi network with my brother, GM saw two chars with identic IP, and banned them for Bot using. GM teleported near the chars, talked to them, we answered, and we got banned.
We are complaining about this.because more people that play in Lan house, and using Wi-fi network, that kind of players have Identic IP, so, GM banned without 100% sure that they was botting, my brother will may not play because of that. Cause anybody can say with 100% sure that chars are bot just because they have the same IP.

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Well,
I gues twin IP doesn't mean that players are botting,
I have a neighbour of mine that would start playing, we use shared internet...
so I can be banned by twins IP?

I think you had to use a program to detect there players...

well, just my opinion

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well, this made me concerned, cause sometimes a friend of mine come to my home and we play using my wi-fi. Staff, what can you do to we dont take the chance of being banned without guilt? cause this is too serious, with I get banned in my char, I think I die. I think gm must be more careful in finding and punishing botting use

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This is what i mean Maegor,
shared internet produce twin IP...

i think it's not reason to ban a character saying that he's botter

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facingdeath,
First of all id like to say, that I was 100% sure that the 4 characters I banned were using programs to autoplay. I not once stated they were banned because they were on the same IP. 
We were watching the characters we banned for longer than you think, before we said anything to you. It just so happened that all characters involved decided to change their "play style" as i appeared next to you to talk. (Until I disapeared again).
Even after jailing all 4 of your characters and talking to you, Did you happen to notice your destroyers still reusing their selfbuffs (at the same time) as you talked to me on a seperate character?
After watching so many characters use bot programs i can assure you, I know how it works and how it looks. I stand by my decision to ban the 4 characters linked to Atrasia.

Reno.

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Hello Maegor,
In responce to your message, When we find characters that are botting, we ban the accounts that are currently using the programs.
For example, If you were using programs to play 3 characters, but had an account logged in as a buffer that was still in town not doing anything, We would only ban the 3 accounts using the programs.
We are very careful, and very thorough when it comes to investigating bots.

I hope this information helps.

Reno.

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well, this calmed me down, thx gm