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Let me stop you right there. Only 1 guy moved to Drunks, to counter those heals. That was Hakamata, and it was done nearly when TW was at half of its duration. Dont even dare to compare moving wards slightly, by regging crucial targets in defenders side. By this logic, next time i'll just reg a twink clan in your clans attacker side, and take the wards, thus making it so much harder for you to get them (thus, some of you will have to reg with different clan, again, and continue the circle of pointlessness). Right now you cant complain about this, cuz Drunks are with Giran, and thus targetable by you and killable. So dont even dare to compare anything here. I am simply not using that dirty move. Plus, castle isnt so big, after all ,you all knew exactly where the wards actually were located, so please.. cut the crap, again. 

Funny though, This went down to having balls. .. dont get me started on how many balls you guys have, with all that dirty trick :D I belive FA had at least some honer in their game, unlike Euro, which are widely known for their dirty playing. Come and play fair, all attackers in same clan, or at least none of your group at defenders side, and we wont move the wards. Partially the reason why we moved them in the first place, cuz we suspected this, we saw fae @ TR.

This is pointless debate, and is not adressing the real issue. Have a good evening!

I'll tell Ignis to change this back as retail.

Ofc is pointless, we can't do anything about it. The best thing we could do is make a request like Ax did, or support the request that is already made. And I support it.  
"Don't dare"? Wu, c'mon... hahaha. I'll consider that a figure of speach. You compare the two "exploits" and dont see them as equally unballanced, cuz you don't see a fight fare, unless you win, or that is how I see it. "moving wards slightly", "Only 1 guy moved to Drunks", "Plus, castle isnt so big", "you all knew exactly where the wards actually were located". I understand perfectly what you are saying, but they also seem like excuses, and we didnt know where they were. :-/  
"I belive FA had at least some honer in their game" - I didn't think of you that much, I'm glad you think of us. :)
"Partially the reason why we moved them in the first place, cuz we suspected this, we saw fae @ TR." - False! You always did that, even when u were in FA. But lets say that time you didn't want to move them, and just decided on the last minute.
And again, this is pointless, that's true; but we just talk. 

Everything we say is considered an excuse or qqing. Why even bother talking. O btw, and when i moved those wards when i was at FA, weren't you happy? And now, suddenly, its an exploit. Cmon. 

"I belive FA had at least some honer in their game" - I didn't think of you that much, I'm glad you think of us. :)  <- 1st its honOr, 2nd, you apparently dont respect anyone here, cuz I try and fight fair. And no, I do not consider winning FAIR, unless it is achieved by fair methods. Once again, Moving wards may be an exploit, but it is way lesser exploit than that you guys did. Cheers.

If You say you didnt know where they were, how come some of your guys ran DIRECTLY to where they were? It would take at least some time to find them, if you wouldn't  know, so, again.. :D

At the end of the day - dont cheat, and we wont either. Come fair, and I wont move the wards.

Rules are Rules. Server is like that from the begin why to change that now? Yes has the bad things on that but has the good also.
I see players that are playing here from the start of the server and they never asked it or support it when someone else asked it. Why now?
About "HONOR" "FAIR" plays and etc. Game its a game. That means that you can play fair/unfair use strategy tricks or go to battle as a "Viking" (i can do both). So when players here will stop QQ about fair game?
And Wutang you talk about fair game when you are the only one who had the hero archer for 10+ times with reg between "start oly time" untill "20 mins fast games?". Oh yes i agree you couldn't do anything else vs tanks and bla bla bla. So thats not fair is strategy!!! That i wanna say its that players must stop QQing about everything all the time cause they can't play!
Imo (and i know that noones care about my opinion) Don't change anything on l2Vanir about how it works, dont remove buffers cause someone think they dont help and they destroy gaming, dont put raid curse, dont put clan penalty etc. L2Vanir is L2Vanir if you dont like dont play here.

Best Regards,
RoraN
 

See, its easy to play a tank and say all of these things. I dont play a tank, nor will I, enough with tanks on this server already. Face me 1v1 with your archer, and I'll show you why I had the hero. As said before, I only do my 9 fights of oly, without feeding. If oly is swarmed with 99% of classes i cant beat, I rly dont want to lose all the time, thats what for i did the ninja fights. But as said before, no more than 9 fights. A trick, yes, but I do not farm oly with another char, and feed its points to whoever i want. I do not use that dirty trick, so... 

We have changed the penalties on joining a clan after leaving,  on dismissing a clan and on creating a clan after dismissing the actual one to default. We didn't have any penalty at all because we changed it before the server started thinking that it would be good for the server, but obviously isn't since people can exploit it.

We're sorry of our mistake and we're fixing it back to default, better late than never! Thanks for the understanding.

And we humbly thank you for this! <3