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You seem to have sadly ignored my posts completely. I will try my best to give a short info once more: enchanted jewels there does not mean much, mage classes are not exactly the most popular there, whereas the jewels themselves are most desirable and killing the desire will kill the server eventually.
You are new there and I suspect none yet to have any hard feelings for you. I've pointed out why what you are proposing is not the best idea and proposed something else instead, which Sterling replied to with approval and encouraged us all saying there is a chance we could soon have a new event there. 
I have couple a few reasons to consider myself quite an experienced player and when I write something concerning classes’ capabilities I know what I am talking about. The +16 is just a shiny show off and while playing for a win I would make sure I am using my +6 rising star instead. If You are not sure of something it would be much appreciated if you could not argue about that, thank You very much.
I would strongly suggest You to read others' posts clearly and think about what was written, not just raging and complaining everyone does not put any attention to Yours. We do.

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Dodger, Im not raging lol. Its a suggestions/debate topic. Anything I say is in the full idea that what I say is an idea, not what NEEDS to happen. Your idea about the instance event never once got a negative response from me, although I don't think it will draw in a substantial amount of money for the server. I never raged or complained about anyone paying attention to the ideas. I find it frustrating however when my topic was to help the server move forward from the past slights and/or problems. And beside yourself, who has put any other positive feedback into it? All I see is negative responses or that will unbalance the server. I HAVE everything I need. I am missing one jewel, thats it. This server needs population tho, and I want ideas that will draw people in. Also more players means more mages/archers etc so everything I suggested about song/dance applies if and when they show up. You see how it's all related?

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Funny how when I dont agree with you or have a different view, its assumed I'm complaining or raging tho. I don't play an archer, I dont really play a mage per se. Every change I suggested in effect hurts me in the long run. But it's not about me, it's about the server. Whats my counter? Mage/Archer and my shit ping to the server lol. My proposed changes help those classes the most that directly counter me, so I fail to see what you're trying to point out.

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Also, Sterling never said your idea itself was approved. She said she had a new event in the works.

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Dear Seraphicas,

How often do I see OL/WC active playing? My answer 1! Pantofla.

Ye, and he didnt even get hero thanks to You clanmates. Same as WuTang - gj reload.

Possible solution? 5-10 Min song/dance for resists, 5-10 Min song/dance for SD/SM. People can still buffbot it but they will need to drag them behind.

I belive You never had to buff peoples with Your boxes right? Its totally stupid idea to change it now, there is almost noone playing that classes as a main, and rebuffing every 8 mins is just stupid. That change would totally ruin server and instead help it that would put it to grave becouse noone would be able to do any instance or harder location. It will not magically couse 10 acive sws/bd's join next day this serv.

it would only require them to drag it with them and rebuff every 5-10 min for certain ones. The npc buffer could remain the same, this mainly applies to 3rd class change skills.

"only" ? Wait, so every dance/song except that 3rd ones (so only champion reneval zerk) would last 1h? I don't think this will encourage someone to play this kind of classes. Peoples would just go without them.

Otherwise just add ALL buffs to the darn npc buffer so we can eliminate the need to box all these buffers. It's stupid really.

Belive me or not but there are many private servers that works this way.

Add Raid boss jewel shadow options to the donate reward area.

So, anthy / valakas / beleth too i belive. Ask peoples how many of this 3 jewels are on this server. I don't really see why it would change that much. Who would pay to get it? If You talk about every other jewel - its really not hard to get them if You know how.

You queue up and you win or lose. Simple. Want to have a better chance at winning? Put in the effort to ++ your gear

yep.

How bout anything other than tanks? Nope. This can be turned around I think, might take a few months, but it can be done. I made a kamael here because I had never played one before.

I belive there are many players not playing a tank tho. Anyway, tbh You made the most OP class on freya but w/e.

Why you think most people left?

I don't want You to think im cocky or something, but this server had really nice onlie, and it would stay that way if Admin would be active. You really dont know anything about server history, so please stop guessing.

But like I posted earlier most of these new people can't even lvl to 78 without asking for powerleveling. One person I know of that I invite here lvl'd to 78 without doing this. I got about 3 or 400 mil worth of stuff given out to new people that I will never see back.

wow 400kk, gj. The poblem is with peoples that want everything too easy no with shadow jewels or 1h buffs.

I'd have to say i cant see allowing someone to have a character and be a gm. Huge conflict of interest.

Bullshit.

Hell a 9v9 would be considered epic pvp on this server. I wish i had some old videos from my crashed pc.

Now? Yes. Year ago? Normal day.  I wish too i lost some fraps also. :C Btw. stop making assumpions that every people playing here knows nothing about the "real" l2.

By Disney:
The main issue and has always been the admin - disapears for months on end- shows up maybe once a week or so when he does pay attention to the server.

Sadly, but i have to agree. If Ignis would be active all the time this server would look diffrently. There were like half a year without any patch when there were ~800 online.

Can we maybe get Sterling to have admin powers?

I belive You dont know how "admin" works.
Srsly i just saw 4 posts saying bullshit about "hey lets make judis buffs 60 mins".

have you ever shot someone with a bow when they are resist stacked against you as an archer? Nuked someone resist stacked against you as a mage?

What?
Seriously, what are You talking about

Stop being so damn defensive guys and use your brains here or leave ffs if you hate it that bad. Have you not seen the influx of players here lately? Lots of new people coming on board. Don't run them off with your bullshit.

Tbh, You're the one who start all the recent bullshit. It's also sad that, You blame all on others, where You can't see Your fault.

Telling the "noobs" to register for oly only 30min left? Isn't that what people complained about TR doing? Talking trash? No class?

I seriously suggest You to stop talking about things You have no idea about. Things that You say, which sometimes are totally opposite to what really happend makes no sense.

Im incapable of being "brainwashed" I think for myself and make my opinions based on what is presented to me.

yeah.

I gathered my info from members of Astale, TR, Redrum, Allianzashinobi, even the gm

I wonder why You saying things like that if You think You knows "the truth". How many of peoples You ask were online when it happend? And did Sterling told You that?

I need to say You're pretty hypocritical, or You don't even read what You wrote.

I never flamed your clan or anything

Ye, You just telling things which are not true.

Some of my ideas might not be popular to you no, but you're also the one sitting their telling the "noobs" to register for olympiad. But yet you show zero interest in newer players getting on a close to even playing field, unless they are in your "swarm".

I guess You know more about me than i know about myself.

But I'm sure you were among the people whining about it to the GM's.

Totally. Thats why i said i don't agree with GM's interfering server's life like that. (do You even read what i say or just assuming thing that suits You?)

And yes aa used to be 3-4 adena when it was for sale.

On interlude, sure, i remember i too. You saying about supply and demand rules but i think You don't understand it. It's obvious why prices are like that in here.

To Muzyk, its the simple rules of supply and demand. High demand, slightly higher prices cuz of the DEMAND for the items/goods. Lower demand slightly lower prices cuz the DEMAND for the goods/items is lower. Unless we talking about alts with rich mains here, how does that not make sense to you?

Do You even read what i said ? Reminder:

Server economy is like that becouse there are many old player that rather buy the stones than farm it, and there are not much new players (sadly) that would farm that - thats why prices are like that. People are lazy here.

You don't have to explain a supply/demand thing. If You could read what i said again, then You would understand that i mean it. The hell is makes not sense to me? I didnt wrote anything like that. I'm aking again - do You even read what i say?

You want to look at forum activity in last couple months other than my posts or the clan hall post? Very few and far between. Maybe you all want to pve by yourselves I dunno.

Yeah, that's 100% not bullshit here.

Farming stones is not hard, someone above posted these items arent farmed hardly ever, and only people buying them are players that have billions to throw around due to being too " lazy" to farm anymore. Not new players, trust me I'm one of the newer players. I didn't buy a single stone and other than Reload giving me some have gotten them myself. Your server you play on is/has died out and you come on here to discredit what I'm saying? I'm trying to build it back up to be better than before. What are your goals here?

I have no idea why, but You act like a "server redeemer", and peoples disagreeing with You are "bad". You REALLY think changing buffs and adding a shadow epics will bring 400+ peoples online ? Goals? I want to have fun.

By your reasoning 10x rates means 10x prices even with hardly any players here and very little demand

Thats my last answer to You, You're assuming things that never happend, and it's useless to make any answers which You will prolly understand totally diffrently.

I find it frustrating however when my topic was to help the server move forward from the past slights and/or problems.

Can't You see that ALSO things that You say are turning it that way ?

You told so many times that You have no idea why posts that are just suggestions are turning to offtopics and other things. Look back to Your post, read them once again. You really don't see that while suggesting anything, You saying 3 diffrent sentences that are totally out of this topic (mostly talking about server history of which You have no idea). You have no idea how many "lets change something" topics were made. There is a lot of suggestion how to change server, but there is only one reason it's like that - which was told by Disney.

TL;DR this discussion is useless, totally out of it's purpose and should be closed.

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^just proved my point. I am speaking in general so people dont think im singling them out. I answer those @ seraphicas replies as per the question. Jeszus Muzyk you act like I've personally slighted you. Im talking about things  FOR THE NEW PLAYERS HERE! and yes, right now 400kk to me is a lot, I dont have billions. Don't want me to think you're an arrogant asshole? Stop acting like one. Understand that most of this is to encourage new ideas to get the server to grow. I didnt flame your clan EVER, sterling asked me who was involved and I told her. I was and still am on the receiving end of flames from that shit and I apologized for it turning into what it did, although that wasn't me that turned it. Can you claim you did the same? You guys took what I said as defaming you somehow? More of a challenge. I specifically stated this was to get new people here, not for veteran players that dont NEED it. You assume nobody will play this or that class, Based off of what? Your opinions? Aren't you guilty of the exact same things? I was sitting right there in giran, went afk to make my kids dinner, come back and scroll thru like 8 lines of chat and there it is "Sign up for oly noobs only 30 min left". "Some noobs arent signed up I know that for sure". It's clear to me you guys dont want anyone new here. Also lemme guess? Screenshot or it didnt happen! You're ridiculous. You turn my topic to some bullshit and derail it every chance you get. hate to say it but you are part of this servers problem whether you want to see it or not. Also I made a kamael I didnt even know wtf they were, It lvls like a dagger and plays like a mage for pvp and it sounded fun. Is it my fault I picked a good class in my ignorance? You gotta understand I didn't ever use steal divinity while lvling so when reload told me to steal buffs I didn't know it was such a short cooldown. And as far as Wutang, I really like him as a person, we think a lot alike and I consider him my friend. You guys got plenty of people to take heros don't complain here about it, feed them some points. Ferra had how many sitting there? We can take yours too. Muzyk get some reading comprehension classes and understand sarcasm when you see it, I was making an example cov is 60 min...why not have judi buffs 60m? See the sarcasm there? Cov is much more powerful OVERALL anyways and last that long so i was trying to make a simple point, Notice here I said OVERALL! Go get archer resists stacked and have some archer come shoot you..note the dmg..now get buffed with out the resists..get shot again..note the dmg..same with mages. How can you not understand that? Whats too complicated for you lol? Lock the topic/close thread, it's pointless to make changes here as I guess nobody plays archer/mage/bd/sws/Ol/wc/ etc, they are not popular classes so sayeth Muzyk.

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Ok, enough.

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